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		<title>By: B.L.</title>
		<link>http://hu.paulocoelhoblog.com/witch-of-portobello/11.01.2007/masodik-fejezet/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>B.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great student abandoned by the Master for some reason often feels like that.
Angry and afraid because the Great Energy doesn't come anymore from that simple spring.
Something like :
"She is a cheater, a liar, selfishly manipulative! And she abused me!! I cry... But I never told it in her eyes. Why not? Maybe because as I looked in her eyes I saw the Light and forgot about all my pain, anger and fear, about all my shallow thoughts on the surface.
Did my life change by her? I have got my most beautiful, meaningful moments from her or at least with her. So after all maybe acceptable..." But at this moment some sort of unpatient anger comes to the surface and washes these half-deep thoughts away for She left, the student is alone and feels not ready to become the Master yet though she must.
Fear of loosing the material things for achieving the higher. It's more simple to blame somebody else and (of course arguable) secure for the brain.
In time the tension eases and the teachings have place to ripen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great student abandoned by the Master for some reason often feels like that.<br />
Angry and afraid because the Great Energy doesn&#8217;t come anymore from that simple spring.<br />
Something like :<br />
&#8220;She is a cheater, a liar, selfishly manipulative! And she abused me!! I cry&#8230; But I never told it in her eyes. Why not? Maybe because as I looked in her eyes I saw the Light and forgot about all my pain, anger and fear, about all my shallow thoughts on the surface.<br />
Did my life change by her? I have got my most beautiful, meaningful moments from her or at least with her. So after all maybe acceptable&#8230;&#8221; But at this moment some sort of unpatient anger comes to the surface and washes these half-deep thoughts away for She left, the student is alone and feels not ready to become the Master yet though she must.<br />
Fear of loosing the material things for achieving the higher. It&#8217;s more simple to blame somebody else and (of course arguable) secure for the brain.<br />
In time the tension eases and the teachings have place to ripen.</p>
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		<title>By: Seeker</title>
		<link>http://hu.paulocoelhoblog.com/witch-of-portobello/11.01.2007/masodik-fejezet/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right at that. I coulnd't agree more with that you say, DitW. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right at that. I coulnd&#8217;t agree more with that you say, DitW. <img src='http://hu.paulocoelhoblog.com/witch-of-portobello/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: dust in the wind</title>
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		<dc:creator>dust in the wind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Queen:play the game    I think most of the people like flirting,and experiencing how attractive they are,and like to see the desire in other's eye.you don't have to be in love,it is a positive feeling,when you know,that someone thinks you are nice,hot.but it is a dangerous game,and we often only realise where the limit is,when it is already too late.when you love someone,but he just plays with you.you feel depressed and cry.but later on,you do the same thing with a boy,it is a kind of a strike back...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Queen:play the game    I think most of the people like flirting,and experiencing how attractive they are,and like to see the desire in other&#8217;s eye.you don&#8217;t have to be in love,it is a positive feeling,when you know,that someone thinks you are nice,hot.but it is a dangerous game,and we often only realise where the limit is,when it is already too late.when you love someone,but he just plays with you.you feel depressed and cry.but later on,you do the same thing with a boy,it is a kind of a strike back&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Seeker</title>
		<link>http://hu.paulocoelhoblog.com/witch-of-portobello/11.01.2007/masodik-fejezet/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2007 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi edo,

Left you a message at Chapter 3! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi edo,</p>
<p>Left you a message at Chapter 3! <img src='http://hu.paulocoelhoblog.com/witch-of-portobello/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: edo</title>
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		<dc:creator>edo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i play too..that s life, i agree, and yes, most of the time, when we manipulate someone, it is, because they want it, but smoetimes it is just provocation, and it is against our life.
i know that paradox exactly, because that is how i try to live my life..this is the reason, that sometimes people can't decide if i am crazy, or too serious:)

i am from hungary, and i just read the two part here, on this side, but the story is really close to me.
and where are u from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i play too..that s life, i agree, and yes, most of the time, when we manipulate someone, it is, because they want it, but smoetimes it is just provocation, and it is against our life.<br />
i know that paradox exactly, because that is how i try to live my life..this is the reason, that sometimes people can&#8217;t decide if i am crazy, or too serious:)</p>
<p>i am from hungary, and i just read the two part here, on this side, but the story is really close to me.<br />
and where are u from?</p>
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		<title>By: Seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Athena tudatában volt a kisugárzásának, és szenvedést okozott mindenkinek, aki szerette."

"Athena was aware of her radiance and caused suffering to all that loved her."

Is that necessarily so? Does one have to cause pain to the ones that one loves? Is thee no other way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Athena tudatában volt a kisugárzásának, és szenvedést okozott mindenkinek, aki szerette.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Athena was aware of her radiance and caused suffering to all that loved her.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is that necessarily so? Does one have to cause pain to the ones that one loves? Is thee no other way?</p>
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		<title>By: Seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 15:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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we all play sg.and we have the power to influence another people's life, but why would we do it?
[/quote]

Now that's a very good question. I personally feel that I keep playing because life is just a big game. Actually, you might know the term "Homo ludens" or the player (wo)man. It's nother paradox: to take life really seriously is actually to refuse to take it seriously at all. The question is: is that manipulation? I believe if someone can be manipulated it means they want to be manipulated themselves.

Edo, where are you from? Have you read The Witch of Portobello or parts of it yet? (I mean in Spanish or Portugese like here on the blogsite.)</description>
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we all play sg.and we have the power to influence another people&#8217;s life, but why would we do it?<br />
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<p>Now that&#8217;s a very good question. I personally feel that I keep playing because life is just a big game. Actually, you might know the term &#8220;Homo ludens&#8221; or the player (wo)man. It&#8217;s nother paradox: to take life really seriously is actually to refuse to take it seriously at all. The question is: is that manipulation? I believe if someone can be manipulated it means they want to be manipulated themselves.</p>
<p>Edo, where are you from? Have you read The Witch of Portobello or parts of it yet? (I mean in Spanish or Portugese like here on the blogsite.)</p>
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		<title>By: Seeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 07:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Nobody can manipulate anybody." I totally agree with that! Everybody chooses their own life; in a relationship, it's always a question of give-and-take. I really like how Andrea takes what Athena says and puts it in quotation marks. But I think she just doesn't understend the whole point of it.

It's a pity I can't read Portugese or Spanish; I can hardly wait to see where all this leads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nobody can manipulate anybody.&#8221; I totally agree with that! Everybody chooses their own life; in a relationship, it&#8217;s always a question of give-and-take. I really like how Andrea takes what Athena says and puts it in quotation marks. But I think she just doesn&#8217;t understend the whole point of it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity I can&#8217;t read Portugese or Spanish; I can hardly wait to see where all this leads!</p>
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		<title>By: edo</title>
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		<dc:creator>edo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2007 06:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i dont know the story..right Athene's story, but i exactly know of "beside" story..
we all play sg.and we have the power to influence another people's life, but why would we do it?
the societies of the "secrte companies", the big deals, the gold elixir...whatever...
there is no meaning, we are just looking for eachother..maybe someone know the answer..but we all know, that only God know it..so we just looking for mates..and they appear...pretending, or just we feel that way..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know the story..right Athene&#8217;s story, but i exactly know of &#8220;beside&#8221; story..<br />
we all play sg.and we have the power to influence another people&#8217;s life, but why would we do it?<br />
the societies of the &#8220;secrte companies&#8221;, the big deals, the gold elixir&#8230;whatever&#8230;<br />
there is no meaning, we are just looking for eachother..maybe someone know the answer..but we all know, that only God know it..so we just looking for mates..and they appear&#8230;pretending, or just we feel that way..</p>
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